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TheModGod
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Post Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:18 am   
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Well, you heard this rumor hear first.

I heard through the grape vine that the reason Xbox stock is still at low levels in regard to retail stores, is because MS is shipping limited numbers of machines while they make modifications to eliminate the possibility of larger HD's being installed in the machines.

This puzzles me. What can MS do to the Xbox to make it not run with a larger HD, other than manipulate the stock BIOS. This would remove any chances of XBL playing, but if a chip is installed and flashed with a hacked bios then modding would still have it's benefits.

Can anyone else think of what they could do to create a problem, even if a chip is installed? What really makes me perplexed about this news is SmartXX's impending release of their own HD for the Xbox. Do they know something we dont??

If you look at the features of the SmartXX Version 2 mod chip you will see two features that puzzle me:

Fake Xbox Live Identity on the fly
Fake Xbox Live HDD on the fly

When I asked what that was at the SmartXX forums I was told that the features had something to do with SmartXX's HD that they are developing.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm.

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Post Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:46 pm   
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Yeh that definatley makes you think does'nt it, the only ways I can think of are the stock bios which can be overidden by chip, an extended eeprom which can be editied, or maybe a file system that limits it or even the HD controller perhaps.

I hope it don't cause more problems tho

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I’m confident that even after a few months most places will have a workaround. As long as something can be engineered it can be reverse engineered.
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Post Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:23 pm   
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maybe they don't want to many xbox's on the shelves come later in the year when xbox2 is rumored to be released


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:05 pm   
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I think it's going to be a modification to the eeprom. But, that will be overcome easily as you can hack an eeprom...

I really can't think of anything else besides more strict eeprom/hd marriage methods.

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Post Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:29 pm   
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As long as eeproms are reprogrammable they will still get wtfpwned.

If I was the Xbox team I would stop trippin on old news and focus all the anti-hobbyist power on the Xbox 2.

How do you think we will do if there is no LPC in the XB2? I guess it really dosent matter so much. Its as if the LPC is nothing more than a convenient stand on the 1.6.

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:46 am   
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im kinda expecting xbox 2 chips to be like an 18 wire jobby like ps2's

ah well

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I wont mind, I love to tinker!
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Yeh I don't mind except it will take longer to mod them no doubt meaning I can get less done if it is a lengthy job like.

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:06 pm   
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lol

Yea I agree it's a waste of time trying to change things now.

Another guess is they could have different sections where the IDE / Power plugs connect in, that would stop using standard HDDs.


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Post Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:21 pm   
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Hi Guys

What ever there doing it is going to suck for new Xbox buyers!

Thankfully I already have my modded system all fired up Laughing

Ohh yeah along with DJB's point someone out there will make larger HDD's with the right connection we hope!

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:16 pm   
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HA..moley moley moley...

Get me some nachos and hold the GuacaMOLEY

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:32 pm   
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The only way I figure they could stop hdd's over 8 or 10 gigs would be to make hardcore hardware changes to the IDE controller.

Even if they changed the power connector there are always other places you can get +/- 12VDC and +/-5VDC and make your own standard connection

But to make these changes in this stage of the game seems like a misuse of company resources on M$ part.

Just my thoughts anyway

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:54 pm   
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I thought the rumor was there was no hard drive in the Xbox 2.....I think I read it here in a news article. If there is, I would have to stick with the new harddrive type theory, maybe not IDE, could be called XMS or some sh&%, maybe a connection difference but that would easily be solved as the DVD drives were.
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