Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: legal sales of mods question.
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DJB Administrator
Joined: May 23, 2003 Posts: 4031 Location: NSW, Australia
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:23 am Post subject:
Dude, I wouldn't recommend doing this.
What you propose to do is totally illegal, for these reasons alone:
1) It is illegal to sell a modchip with a pre-loaded BIOS that can run Xbox Content (like your X2 and Evox BIOSes). The only legal way you could distribute a chip would be with either Cromwell or FlashBIOS, where the end-user has to flash the BIOS themselves.
2) Selling pre-modded Xboxes in general could land you in serious trouble. I've been on this site for years now and have seen a lot of people just like yourself who do mean well, but have not really sat down and thought of what could happen if things go wrong.
3) Since you couldn't have a proper hacked Xbox BIOS on the Modchip, you wouldn't be able to install AID anyways. And honestly, I don't think I'd want it to be associated with a shop as such.
The way AID is distributed at the moment, and will always be, is free download. On occasions I have produced some AID DVDs (which were printed on and individually numbered) for VIP Members or others in bad situations (no Internet or bad connection speeds), however I keep the costs very small mainly to cover costs and materials (DVDs, Printer Cartridges, Envelopes etc).
Dont get me wrong, it's great that you feel so proud of HQ that you want to advertise us, but seriously it would be a bad idea. It could possibly attract attention that we don't need (M$ etc) and the last thing we want it our site to be put in that kind of spotlight.
So, I'm gonna have to say no to BOTH the advertising for HQ and the use of AID. Just trying to protect both yours and our asses here. By all means, do it as a hobby from home, and tell those people about us, but don't do it from a shop location, it only means trouble.
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DJB
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Manik Xbox-HQ Freak
Joined: Aug 21, 2006 Posts: 519 Location: Ontario, Canada
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:13 am Post subject:
DJB, did xbox-hq require permission from microsoft to run the site? I am just curious. _________________
DJB Administrator
Joined: May 23, 2003 Posts: 4031 Location: NSW, Australia
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:40 am Post subject:
Manik wrote:
DJB, did xbox-hq require permission from microsoft to run the site? I am just curious.
Not as such, we don't need premission to run the site, but M$ have been in contact with us in the past.
Basically homebrew is sorta in a grey-area as legality goes, it's not legal, but M$ have been turning a blind eye to it as such. However, distribution of commercial games (Halo for example) is something they are against naturally.
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Avalaunch 0.49.3 build.142
XBMC / AID 3.03
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DJB Administrator
Joined: May 23, 2003 Posts: 4031 Location: NSW, Australia
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject:
Like I said, the only legal way to mod an xbox is to leave the Cromwell BIOS or FlashBIOS n there and not reflash it.
I understand that you want to do the right thing for people by doing this, and it's very thoughtful of you, but I dont think anyone here would like to see someone getting busted.
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Manik Xbox-HQ Freak
Joined: Aug 21, 2006 Posts: 519 Location: Ontario, Canada
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject:
same here, thanks. _________________
j8994 Moderator
Joined: Feb 05, 2006 Posts: 1853 Location: Tennessee, USA
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:12 am Post subject:
DJB wrote:
Manik wrote:
DJB, did xbox-hq require permission from microsoft to run the site? I am just curious.
Not as such, we don't need premission to run the site, but M$ have been in contact with us in the past.
Basically homebrew is sorta in a grey-area as legality goes, it's not legal, but M$ have been turning a blind eye to it as such. However, distribution of commercial games (Halo for example) is something they are against naturally.
thee reason they turned the blind eye is that the mods that allow the use of homebrew of dveloping of such had increased there sales buy more then 40% on the xboxes, after the first chip was produced, so they won in the end _________________ Please post all PC Questions at PC-HQ.com
Manik Xbox-HQ Freak
Joined: Aug 21, 2006 Posts: 519 Location: Ontario, Canada
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject:
so basically because of mods, microsoft makes more money? _________________
j8994 Moderator
Joined: Feb 05, 2006 Posts: 1853 Location: Tennessee, USA
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject:
well it wasnt till the first chip that was produced , thta microsoft noticed they had to up production, so yes, and because of the mods for developing games/homebrew, microsoft is allowing a dev kit for x360 use to be sold to consumors. hence they will once again sell sell sell _________________ Please post all PC Questions at PC-HQ.com
Manik Xbox-HQ Freak
Joined: Aug 21, 2006 Posts: 519 Location: Ontario, Canada
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject:
lol microsoft lets the people use development kits to increase their sales. _________________
hellblazer55 V.I.P. Lifetime
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject:
yeah, you make it, they take all the money. _________________
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