Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:16 pm Post subject: xbox is fragging
i've goty an unmodded xbox and its flashing the red and green lights, wont display andthing, and turns off seconds after i turn it on...again its not been modded...any help would be wounderful
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:33 pm Post subject:
Here are some explanations that may help you.
GREEN/RED Flashing:
Probably a bad chip or bad image.
SOLID GREEN/No EJECT/No AUDIO/No VIDEO:
Probably a bad solder point. Check all your points again.
It could also be a heat problem , make sure your fan is connected and don't put your xbox near heat sources. You can also try to open the top of the xbox and check if it goes better.
SOLID GREEN/No AUDIO/No VIDEO:
This is probably a problems with your audio settings. Try to boot your xbox with a standard a/v pack instead of a HD pack.
ORANGE/GREEN Flashing:
No AUDIO/VIDEO (A/V) pack.
This may also be down to a solder splash on the board or a damaged track.
ORANGE Flashing:
This may also be down to a solder splash on the board or a damaged track. May also be due overheating.
GREEN for half a sec then RED Flashing:
Bad/Corrupted or Empty Eeprom.
SOLID RED:
System overheated , hardware failure
I know that you say your box wasn't modded, but man....it sure sounds like a chip/solder splash issue to me. Did you buy you machine new? Has it ever been opened? Look underneath and see if the screws under the two stickers are exposed. Let us know what you find. _________________ Good Deals: Death@Hand, funkydopenloven, StaticMind, Slamscaper, PorscheXboxter
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da goat Guest
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:10 am Post subject:
brand new andnever opended up until after this problem occured
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:32 am Post subject:
EEK..if it was brand new you had a free ride with Microsoft for warranty repairs. If you opened it up, you just voided that warranty. It sounds like you had a good case for free repairs, because obviously something took a crap in your machine, whether it's the board or what it's hard to say. _________________ Good Deals: Death@Hand, funkydopenloven, StaticMind, Slamscaper, PorscheXboxter
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da goat Guest
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:53 am Post subject:
hmm well i screwed that one up...do u think it would be better to try n fix it or buy a new one? i was thinking about upgradeing it too with a bigger hd and mod chip...thanks for help
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:35 am Post subject:
That's a tough one bud. If you are planning on chipping a machine anyway, then try this. Buy a chip and a HD. Don't put the HD into your machine yet. Just chip it and see if you can get it to boot. If so, then put the HD in.
You can always sell your unit on Ebay. I see broken consoles going between 60-70 bucks.
Or, you can take out the HD, the Power supply, the DVD drive and sell them separately. Trash the motherboard or sell it as is. Then you can sell the case for 15.00 or so for case modders.
You can buy a new machine and your sales will help absorb some of the cost.
Here is a site that buys used stuff if you don't want to list.
They are like an xbox salvage yard..neat site..lots of info:
Let me know what you decide to do. If you can't get it fixed, maybe I'll take it off your hands as another member and myself are doing case mods, premods, and repairs. _________________ Good Deals: Death@Hand, funkydopenloven, StaticMind, Slamscaper, PorscheXboxter
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da goat Guest
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:14 am Post subject:
i dont really know all that much about different chips and stuff so maybe you can help me...heres what i want it to be able to do:
rip games and play from the hard drive
upgrade to a 250+ gb heard drive
have an operating system...i guess linux is the only option as far as this gos?
i would also like to upgrade memory (i didnt think it was possible but someone in this forum i think said they had done it)
yeah...thats about it...
you also said that if i sold it seperatly to trash the motherboard...does that mean that its likey the motherboard thats gone bad...i was assumming that the software was no longer on the xbox hard drive
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:54 am Post subject:
That's where a lot of people go wrong, when they think the software resides on the hard drive. I used to think the same thing. Even though the XBOX is like a PC, it's really not one. Now, yes, if you put Linux on that's a different story. Then you have an OS running off the HD. I am assuming that anyway.
The xbox's main functions don't come from the HD, maybe this can help you understand a little bit. It may be a bit technical, but I am sure you'll catch on real quick. Trust me, I was spinning too when I first learned all of this.
The CPU (Central Processing Unit) is responsible for all the logic that handles games AI, crunching numbers, moving data etc..etc... The xbox is equipped with an Intel Celeron 733MHz CPU.
The GPU (Graphic Processing Unit is a special processor developed by Nvida and MS exclusively for the xbox. A GPU usually takes the burden of processing and rendering 3D data off the CPU so it can attend to other tasks such as AI. As well as handling the graphics it also ha the northbridge chipset built in and connects to the MCPX chip with the hyper transport bus.
MCPX Chip is a southbride chipset which handles the functions such as USB, IDE, sound, network and processes the data from the TSOP/LPC port for loading ROMS.
The Video encoder takes the data provided to it from the GPU and converts it to a signal which is compatible with your TV.
You machine comes with 64MB of DDR SDRAM which is divided into four chips. There is four empty ram slots available on the motherboard which does allow for extra RAM. You do not have to install extra RAM to back up games. I know some people have upgraded processors and RAM, but I am still not sold on that need.
Your eeprom stores data such as the unlock code for the HD, regional settings and the motherboards serial number.
The TSOP holds the system bios which tells the unit how to function such as disk input/output, hardware checking, error handling, where to look for data when the unit is started as well as various functions.
The LPC port is where you can intall alternative hardware devices such as modchips. The D0 point is where you can force the system to look for a boot from the LPC port. This is how you get your system to bypass the TSOP and load the Modchip/bios.
As you can see none of the functions required a HD, so that is why I was leaning toward the motherboard. It may be just a faulty eeprom, TSOP who knows... Since you didn't mod it, it's hard to say where the problem came from.
Now, on with your modchip choices.
There are so many out there, solderless chips, chips that require soldering. It's pretty much up to you what you decide. Just check the specs and make sure it can handle the size HD you want. You will also have to decide if you actually want to intall Linux. Linux by far isn't for beginners, so you will need a lot of help at first. Unless of course you are already familiar with it.
You do not need Linux to back up games to your HD. The bios that you decide to program your modchip with (which by the way, most mod chips are fourth generation chips that already have their own OS) will set the tone for what you can and cannot do with your machine. Once you have your chip installed, then the bios loaded, you can then decide what dashboard to use. Evox, avalaunch, mxm...there's quite a few. You can also download what's called an autoinstaller that will load your dashboard, partition your HD and install a lot of useful apps. Apps like PxxLoader and DVD2XBOX which both will back up games to your HD.
You can then also add apps like XBMC (xbox media center) and XBMP (xbox media player). XBMC is awesome and you can watch DivX movies, listen to radio stations, check your local weather, listen to mp3's and even once you get really going you can stream live tv right to your xbox.
I know that I just threw a ton of shit at you, but take your time and learn what you need. This way, you will make an informed decision on how to go. You should read up on things like Glossary of terms for newbies..here on this site. We also have a lot of tutorials. When you get confused on an issue, just post a question and we'll help you out straight away.
Good luck with what you decide. Ask around about what people like about their chips. If you aren't keen on installing youself, you can always get a premodded xbox from one of our sponsors. Even some of our members do work.
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da goat Guest
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:06 am Post subject:
i already know all the technical stuff that has to do with the xbox specs and so forth...i also know quite a bit about computer as i have been working with them since i was 12 (upgrading, building and such)although i am 16 now...i have gained quite a bit of experice on computers...i just dont really understnad video game systems and such...i know how to do a lot with linux and would like to have that on there...but wouldnt upgrading the memory make for a much smoother game play? same as for the cpu...really the only thing that i didnt kno that u said was that the system files werent stored on the xbox...btw thanks for clearing that up
thanks for al the help...you are by far the most helpful person that i have come across concerning xbox...ne way...back to the question...what is it really worth doing to the xbox before it would just be better off building a gaming pc and waiting for an xbox emu and siome roms
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:17 am Post subject:
Game developers design the games with xbox's retail specs in mind. IE: only have 64meg RAM. I have never ran into a game that was developed for the xbox that didn't run smoothly. So, to me putting in extra RAM for gaming is superfluous. Now, I am sure there may be other uses for extra RAM especially if you are running Linux and running multiple applications at once, assuming that xbox linux can do that....like I said, I have no interest in Linux on xbox so my knowledge about it is zilch.
It's up to you whether you see value into modding an xbox or going gaming PC route. But, I have an modded xbox that only cost me 384.00. I can play movies, run emulators, stream live TV and radio.. pretty much all I need. Now, gaming PC's are a lot more than 384.00 even if you're building your own. You can wrap that much up into a graphics card! Since you're experienced you can mod your own machine for even less.
149.00 xbox
35.00 X2.3 Chip
150.00 or less for HD depending on current sales.
Total, 334.00...oh yeah, and 10.00 for VIP membership here so you can get ALL the apps you will ever need for your machine...HA.
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da goat Guest
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:00 am Post subject:
lol...didnt think about the developers only programing for 64 megs...does that chip you mentioned let you rip games and play them w/o the disc...i have another xbox already that i got a while back so i wouldnt need to buy a new one...also...how does the vip access work here...what exactly is the dc? (direct connect i think i read)
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:09 pm Post subject:
Yeah, you won't have any problems backing up games to HD, playing games via the disk, and even booting with the original MS dash so you can play xbox live.
If you are an xbox live subscriber you need to make sure you have a way to boot with your machine with the mod chip off. Otherwise, MS will scan your system to see what bios you are running and if they find a hacked bios they will ban your machine and you gamertag from xbox live.
Xecuter 2.3 chips, Xenium, Smartxx, Aladdin, tons of chips give you the opportunity to do everything you need to do. The bios that is flashed into your chip is what really gives you options. Don't get me wrong, chips give you options too, but I think the bios is very important to mention.
Some chips can be flashed via CD, others have to be flashed via a little programmer. Keep that in mind too.
Some chips can be turned off by just selecting the option from a screen, others you have to install a toggle switch (which I heard is super easy).
VIP membership is easy here. All you do is send a paypal donation of 10.00 to donations@xbox-hq.com
For your membership you get access to everything you could ever need to get your machine up and running. Apps, bios', roms, emulators, dashboads, and autoinstallers.
Direct Connect (DC) is basically a file sharing program. Just like bearshare, kazaa, napster. However, DC is nicer because you don't get as many bogus files. Each hub has it's own rules, like how much your share file has to contain for you to gain access, and is ran by an administrator. You can get some really good files. Our hub requires I believe 40GB of game share for you to be allowed to access. Now that is to trade xbox games. I think just to get in for regular share, like apps and stuff, you only need 20GB of share. You will find hubs that require 10GB and hubs that require 70GB. They are all different.
We are in the process of getting a Bit Torrent section here. That is another way to file share. It's very cool. You need Java running on your pc and another program like Azureus, which are all free by the way, and then you download little Bit Torrent files. The files are very small usually under 30K. Once you open the file using Azureus it starts download the file from various peers. You can also trade with other members here. We have a trading section where you can post what you have to trade and what you want and privately trade with other people via FTP, ICQ, or any other way to transfer files.
Regardless of which chip you end up with, you will be fine. Don't let the decision of what chip you go with slow you down. You can always email the company you are purchasing from and ask specifics. _________________ Good Deals: Death@Hand, funkydopenloven, StaticMind, Slamscaper, PorscheXboxter
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