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Irieislaw97
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Post Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:10 am   
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I bought an old original XBOX recently.
When I booted it up, it said "Xbox Live is updating your console system. Please do not turn off the system." The update is not moving and then a pop up said "Xbox live is not responding. Please try again later."
I thought it was just a network problem. But after i plugged the Xbox to a network with internet, it is still the same. I cant get to the main menu of my Xbox because of that Xbox Live update. Im stuck! Help? 💓 I cant find anyone with this same problem on Youtube and anywhere. Lol. I hope someone can help me.


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:20 pm   
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Put any game that says XBOX Live Enabled on it in the XBOX turn it off and back on. If the game is able to boot click on the XBOX Live option and it will update your XBOX to the latest dashboard (files are on every X-Live enabled game disc) and once its done NEVER click on X-Live or DashUpdate.xbe again Very Happy

If that doesnt work you will have to do a hotswap HDD rebuild which is a major pain in the ass.


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:00 pm   
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The problem is, I dont have a disc that has XBox Live features. Will it work if I just burn a game to a DVD disc and use it to update the dashboard? Or do I really need an original Xbox disc with Xbox Live features? Thanks for the reply btw. 😄


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:42 am   
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It depends whether the Xbox is modded or not.

If the Xbox was modded and most likely softmodded the dash update attempt will have killed the softmod and you'd be lucky to get any dash booting.

However the problem is that the it sounds like the Xbox is not modded which means you can't boot backups or anything else other than original Xbox game discs.

Xbox Live is no longer available for the original Xbox so there's no point in having it online unless you install XBMC and, of course, you can only do that if the Xbox is modded first.

What I would suggest trying is disconnecting the Xbox from the internet connection and see what happens then. It sounds as though the Xbox was set to Auto sign in so disconnecting it might resolve your problem and allow you to get the MS dash to boot normally.

If disconnecting it still results in the same problem or you get some error message then chances are the MS dash has been stuffed up by the attempted update. You'll only get it reinstalled (if you're lucky) by using a Live enabled original game disc as SPPV described.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:47 pm   
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If youre in Canada I can mail you a copy of Top Spin. The game is a piece of crap but it is Live Enabled


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:53 am   
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That is a notorious game I remember from my Xbox-Scene forum days being warned about. I seem to recall it was said it automatically updates the dash even if you just play the game which, of course stuffs an unprotected softmod.

If anything is going to get a MS dash reinstalled that would be it.


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:06 am   
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ArchAngle wrote:
That is a notorious game I remember from my Xbox-Scene forum days being warned about. I seem to recall it was said it automatically updates the dash even if you just play the game which, of course stuffs an unprotected softmod.

If anything is going to get a MS dash reinstalled that would be it.


Thats just a rumor started by guys who dont want to admit they fubared their system. I personally own 13 copies of Top Spin and 7 of the Top Spin/Amped demo disc. None have ever auto updated my dash. If you look at Top Spin it has a gazillion xbe files and I suspect thats where the issue was. Guys that wanted to seem smart and went clicking and they clicked something they shouldnt have clicked like Downloader.xbe, Update.xbe or Dashupdate.xbe etc


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:11 am   
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SPPV wrote:
If youre in Canada I can mail you a copy of Top Spin. The game is a piece of crap but it is Live Enabled


I'm in the Philippines. So sad. 😂 It's hard to find original Xbox disc here in my area. Thanks by the way for the replies sir!


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:35 am   
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I'm planning on softmodding via the hotswap method and use ndure to install the soft mod. But is it okay if I don't know my Xbox kernel number? Is it safe to without knowing the kernel version?


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:26 pm   
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SPPV wrote:
ArchAngle wrote:
That is a notorious game I remember from my Xbox-Scene forum days being warned about. I seem to recall it was said it automatically updates the dash even if you just play the game which, of course stuffs an unprotected softmod.

If anything is going to get a MS dash reinstalled that would be it.


....... If you look at Top Spin it has a gazillion xbe files and I suspect thats where the issue was. Guys that wanted to seem smart and went clicking and they clicked something they shouldnt have clicked like Downloader.xbe, Update.xbe or Dashupdate.xbe etc


When I learned a bit more than I had at that time I did find that claim odd. But not having tested it myself and not wanting too I took the advice at face value and avoided Top Spin (not my sort of game anyway) as a result.

A couple of years ago I actually used the dashupdater.xbe from another game just to see what happens. I was using a cloned HDD so I had the original to fall back on if I had any problems and I'm glad I did.

It reverted the softmod (SID) to the 'retail' MS state and I had no problems. It booted fine. The trouble came when I came to re-softmod as that was what I was really most interested in testing.

I read many people have had problems resoftmodding, particularly when they'd used the Splinter Cell game save exploit. The game boots correctly but at Checkpoints it either goes to a blank white screen or just reloads the main MS dash rather than the installer.

That's exactly what happened to me using freshly installed SC games saves. I eventually did manage to re-softmod it but had to find, buy, use 007 AUF instead of SC to do it.

Never doing that again and why I always recommended stripping out any updater and dashupdater XBE an installed game or an ISO includes. In the latter case the uploader often does that themselves.


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Irieislaw97 wrote:
I'm planning on softmodding via the hotswap method and use ndure to install the soft mod. But is it okay if I don't know my Xbox kernel number? Is it safe to without knowing the kernel version?


If you are gonna go the hotswap route use this http://www.mediafire.com/file/trb4c2els498vnh/BABYLON2_6-13.zip/file

The way Kingroach Ndure sets up the HDD is just asking for trouble


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:42 am   
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SPPV wrote:
Irieislaw97 wrote:
I'm planning on softmodding via the hotswap method and use ndure to install the soft mod. But is it okay if I don't know my Xbox kernel number? Is it safe to without knowing the kernel version?


If you are gonna go the hotswap route use this http://www.mediafire.com/file/trb4c2els498vnh/BABYLON2_6-13.zip/file

The way Kingroach Ndure sets up the HDD is just asking for trouble


Thank you, Sir! Does this download includes any tutorial files?


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:39 pm   
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Just type tut at anytime while running the program and it will give you the option of text and video tuts.


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Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:05 am   
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SPPV wrote:
Just type tut at anytime while running the program and it will give you the option of text and video tuts.


Sir, I downloaded and installed Babylon. Im a little bit confused on what to do next. I read the text tut from the program but Im still pretty unsure what to do in the Hotswapping


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Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:08 am   
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SPPV wrote:
Just type tut at anytime while running the program and it will give you the option of text and video tuts.


Can you kindly give me a start up tip on what to do first? I dont know what to choose in the Program's Menu.

Knowing that the status of my XBOX is " Stucked in Dashboard Update "


Which one will I chose? and what to do next?
sorry for a lots of Questions! Thank you! Smile
GLOSSARY

1) XBOX INSTALLER........This is for installers meant to run directly on the XBOX
>DVD INSTALLER.......This creates an XISO of Babylon for you to use on your XBOX (if unfamiliar with Babylon its similar to discs like Hexen or Slayers)
>USB GAMESAVE.......This creates a gamesave installer for use with the exploitable XBOX games (007:AUF, MechAssault, Splinter Cell) all 3 work on NTSC consoles but PAL users are limited to Splinter Cell. This can create 3 size of package 4GB, 2GB, 256MB. The larger packs include emulators. Use the included Xplorer360 to load your FATX formated USB with the files it creates

2) PC INSTALLER.......This creates an XBOXHDM bootdisc or XBOXHDM USB for modding, HDD building/upgradeing via a PC with IDE ports and an IDE CD/DVD drive
>XBOXHDM CD.......This will create an XBOXHDM ISO for either Chip/TSOP or softmod XBOX that will fit on a 700mb CD.
>XBOXHDM DVD.......This will create an XBOXHDM ISO for either Chip/TSOP or softmod. DVD includes emulators/ROMs, apps and can do Shadow C.
>XBOXHDM USB.......This will create an XBOXHDM USB installer package for you to copy to your thumbdrive. It works for Chip/TSOP, softmod or ShadowC

3) EXTRAS.......This contains options such as preparing files for FTP, create a Emu Installer DVD, or clear TEMP files.
>MS Dash-FTP.......This will give you a virgin MS dash ready for FTP to your XBOX.
>Softmod-FTP.......This will give you the files to FTP to your XBOX to switch from another mod or repair a mod.
>Emus-FTP......This will give you the most popular XBOX emulators with ROMs ready to FTP to your XBOX
>Emu Installer-DVD.....This will create an Emu Installer XISO which can be ran on an XBOX to install emulators and ROMs
>Clear TEMP Files......This deletes temp files returning Babylon2 to a virgin state.

4)TUT........When TUT is typed at any choice prompt when running Babylon2 it will open the Tutorial Menu
>Text Tut......This will open the folder containing all the text tutorials for Babylon2
>Video Tut......This will open your default internet browser and take you to the Babylon2 Tutorial playlist on Youtube

5)COMPILER.......COMPILER refers to the Babylon2 executeable which is ran when using this program.

6)EEPROM......This is the unique HDD key(eeprom.bin) for your XBOX and is required when doing HDDs for softmod unless performing a hotswap mod. It is also required when doing a ShadowC mod. When making an XBOXHDM disc installer be sure to copy your eeprom.bin (if you have it) to C:\Babylon2\xboxhdm\linux\eeprom before running Babylon2

7)X2......Means dual-boot. First option boots via power, second boots via the open button. For example X2 Dash-MS Dash would mean which ever hacked dash you chose(Evox, UnleashX, XBMC) will boot when you use the power button to turn on your XBOX. If you power on using the open button the XBOX will boot the classic MS Dashboard.

8)ShadowC......This locks the real C away from access and gives you a fake C(300MB) to use. When using the PC Installer to install ShadowC the fake C will be left empty. If using the XBOX installer the fake C will be populated with MS Dash files.


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