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Post Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:34 pm   
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Hello everyone. I'm new to x-box modding. I study viruses and virus actions and i was thinking i know there's PSP viruses and PS2 Virus so i decided to look around for X-box virus and ways they can be transfered infect/ hook other files and then report anyway it could happen to Microsoft for any x-box updates in the future I've got some basic ideas but just to make sure. i need a few details. one: what is the file format used to run command lines from the x-box. i know that x-boxes use a less detailed version of the Windows 2000 kernel so it has to be possible to run commands.

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:31 pm   
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i think the file fomat that you want is a .xbe, and i've been modding and looking around this site for about a yr now.. and i dont think theres any reported cases of a xbox virus... j/w why you want to know? trying to develop one?


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:00 am   
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isnt Xbe the Exe file type. i'm looking for more like .Bat type but you X-box and yes i'm trying to proove that you can run commands from the x-box console. it would be easy for me to make a destructive virus that was in an Exe format then convert it to Xbe. i could show you papers of infected consoles that brick stuff like PSP's and such.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:12 am   
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yes the xbox can get viruses cus it is a computer but i for one hate viruses cus it is a pain in the ass when you get one there is no point to them except to make a market for antivirus progs if it wornt for pep who make them thered be no need for av progs and then i wouldn't need to shell out money to protect my stuff that i worked hard to get pep who make viruses are just as bad as Vandals like the pep who think its fun to throw rocks threw other peps windows for no reason there's no need for it but their prob out there already so i for one hope no one helps you on you vencher to make a xbox virus


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:17 am   
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/sarcastic Wow that was helpful. You really listened to me when i told you not to post unless you have something usefull to add. anyway i'm sorry you dont want to help me protect people from damages and money loss. as for the money problem i do my work For Free and i give all up comming software out as freeware. I will say it again. if you dont have something usefull to say then do not post.


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Its a free forum, and as far as im concerned they have just as much right to post as you do.

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There is no xbox viruses that I have heard of, the only way to affect a xbox is to directly hack it, your not really going to get anything useful to work with. Theres no need to protect it, typically the xbox would be a better place to store a virus LOL.

I know it would be interesting to find out if it could be done, but the only way that I could possibly see a virus working would be in a gamesave that you download for certain gamesave sites.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:57 am   
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haha im with bud_toker, dont ask about making a virus, thats just stupid!

"I want to help"? How is being the prgrammer of your OWN virus going to hel people? If there was a threat for viruses then therd be more than what you want to create. I mean, come on, just your virus that you want to create will nto help u in making a AV prog.

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The only thing microsoft is really worried about is thier 360 being hacked lol
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Post Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:39 am   
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Since you have all been so useless to me and treated me so badly on my first few posts that were going to be used to help people i will no longer use your fourms or buy a VIP Membership. since most of you obviously know nothing about viruses or how to type or how to read. It would be really easy to send viruses to others x-boxes by hooking it into a map file for Halo 2 lets say and removing some other stuff within the map. now i couldn't test this because no one here could tell me how to execute dos commands from the x-box console i was going to put a little echo in saying that it worked and made a txt file to the cache i did not want help programing my own virus i just wanted to know how to run dos commands.

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haha im with bud_toker, dont ask about making a virus, thats just stupid!

"I want to help"? How is being the prgrammer of your OWN virus going to hel people? If there was a threat for viruses then therd be more than what you want to create. I mean, come on, just your virus that you want to create will nto help u in making a AV prog.


TheRealHypnotiX You are an idiot. Try looking up the term "ethical hacking". People get paid really good money to do stuff like that and i am doing it for free to help people, how would programing my own virus make it easier to make my own AV well one thing would be to test how it can be sent, spread and infect other files.

All i wanted was an answer to a simple question and i didnt want to be flamed and i got flamed even when i asked nicely not to be flamed. maybe you should treat your posters with more respect.


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What flaming, your treating members badly, they are entitled to thier own opinion, like seriously what gives and saying everyone is useless is considered as flaming.

Try putting windows 98 on your xbox and try some viruses, idealy thats the only way that a virus could attack a xbox in theory.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:10 am   
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The map files are just that, data, people have been trying for quite a while to get the xbox to execute code from files such as that but without causing some type of font/audio based buffer overrun they have been unsuccessful. If you are looking to run code the only way currently is through game save hacking with either Mechassault, Splinter Cell, or 007: Agent Under Fire.

Also there is not a file format that you can just put dos style commands into and have them execute, even on a modded box. These functions were stripped from the kernel, you could write a malicious xbe file but as far as embedding the harmful code into some other format it has not been found how to do such things. If it were the modding of the console would be much easier as you could do it via the network or some other method.

Most PSP bricking programs simply were programs coded the same way as homebrew promising to be something that everyone wanted and it would erase important parts of the firmware thus bricking the device. It wasn't just sent via wifi or during a gaming session, the user has to purposely try to execute the code thinking it is something that they would want.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:54 am   
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wow lol, but your all alone, it takes more than 1 flaming bag of poop to succesfully do what your trying to acomplish as there are different ways things could happen IF possible(remmeber blazer i said IF lol)and thus more than yourself would be required to do such a thing.

Call me or anyone else useless, but it doesnt hurt any of us, you only make yourself look more stupid by acting a damn fool!

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:05 am   
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Not taking to either side here, but I'd have to agree with Sjohn. Really the only way of doing harm would be by way of a malicious executable, say one that would blank the eeprom and bios, and format the HDD.

And yet for this to work, the user would have to locally execute the .xbe them self, unless there were some way of initiating it via debug (which most don't have/use anyway).

Even though its a pain in the a**, browsing the net on an xbox is basically guaranteed virus-free browsing Laughing

Well, thats my 2 cents anyway...........

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