Joined: Jan 21, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Essex England
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: help - drowning - probs with network bios flash X3 mod
newbee in the s@)t.
i installed Executer3 mod, got flash screen fine on the short push - standard xbox screen on long push as it should do- feeling good it worked and wiping worry sweat beads from brow (remember your 1st time?), now very confident, i used the network 'cd less' option listed elswhere in the tutorials on this excellent site to flash the bios to the 1st 1meg bank (on.on.off.off).
i got the loading bar and then a shut down as expected which is meant to confirm all is well, but now all i get the just a blue screen on a short push no text nothing but blue, even tried booting with white button held in.
a long push still boots to standard xbox dashboard ok. tried again same thing, tried with a couple of other bios's but same thing. what am i doing wrong or missing? (be quiet at the back who said 'brains")
should i have a further cd in the drive for the bios to hook onto on the virgin boot? or is there a problem? i can boot as normal, and run my games if i use bank 2 (off.on.off.offf) so can re-flash.
any suggestions would be really appreciated, and hope this is not a too dumb ass bunch of questions. i have read through many threads here and elswhere - and i did not beg anyone for my bios but searched for it like a good well behaved geek! but i can not find any helpful posts for this problem
regs
Shark2th Moderator
Joined: Nov 17, 2004 Posts: 5222 Location: Tennessee, USA
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject:
I wish I could help but I am not familiar with the Executer3. Now if maybe TheModGod or custom-xmodz sees this post (and they should), they may be able to assist in getting your box up and running. They are quite good. You don't have any info on the type of Xbox you are running (V 1.0-1.6b). Sounds like you installed the chip properly. I don't know if your chip has anything that prevents a specific bios from being installed in bank 1, although usually, I would install the M$ bios there then all others from bank 2 forward.
My other thought is that some bioses don't like certain Xboxes such as a 1.6a or 1.6b, so that might help. What bios are you trying to install and are you sure you need the 1MB bios and can't simply use a 256k perhaps? _________________ http://twitter.com/HQ_Shark2th
sillygameplayer Xbox-HQ User
Joined: Jan 21, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Essex England
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject:
hi sharks2th
i have a V1 (Rev K) with soldered over through holes (real pain) i used a 1 meg option as instructed when flasing over the xcutor bios and ollowing the tutorial. i have rebooted in the second 1 meg bank but when i boot on the 1st 1 meg bank i get blue screens.
further trawling seems to point to installing a dashboard on 'E' drive but do not see how i can get onto it via cable only and malking an ISO cd is prooving difficult.
i might have to resort to a straight forward bribe to our illustrious guru - a promise of big really wet messy and slobbering kiss if he helps
thanks for you imput i greatly appreciated your efforts
Shark2th Moderator
Joined: Nov 17, 2004 Posts: 5222 Location: Tennessee, USA
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject:
So you have either a V1.0 or V1.1 machine. I have the 1.0 myself. Ya it's a real pisser that they already have solder in them. _________________ http://twitter.com/HQ_Shark2th
sillygameplayer Xbox-HQ User
Joined: Jan 21, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Essex England
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: bios flashing HELL - Xbox to get wings for short fast flight
k, the plot thickens i have finally got to flash a bios that works into the 1st meg (on.on.off.off) but its flipping cromwell - but at least it may be the 'LADA' boots in and gives me a screen and asks for the disk. as yet i have not made the iso disk.
i have now tried many other bois and variants <20 with no success (even a VIC20 off a floppy) so what is wrong? the fact i got cromwell on at least prooved all my connections were ok and the flashing technique used was correct via network. i am just lost for idea's - i have even threatenned to go back to the PS2 and be dammed!!!.
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary Xbox Version: V1 Modded: X3
Joined: Apr 18, 2004 Posts: 5303 Location: Greensburg PA
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:27 am Post subject:
I haven't done many X3's, but I would think that once you got your bios flashed, you would flip your one switch to protect, and you should now boot to config live...
I am assuming that you used the proper 1959 bios for the X3, so other than that, I would say give it another shot and see what gives.
The X3 is a rather complex chip...not in my mind a good beginner chip other than the fact it really throws you to the wolves as far as getting modding experience under your belt:)
I typically recommend Xenium Ice to first timers....it's a very straight forward operation, no switches...still has built in webserver, and almost all options that the X3 has minus the touchy feely things like already having the ability to change the flubber screen and stuff that really has no value to me.
Did you get the 1959 bios from here??
TheModGod
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sillygameplayer Xbox-HQ User
Joined: Jan 21, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Essex England
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:37 am Post subject:
hi modgod, thanks for comming back to me, i did try the 1959 build.. i work as an electronics service engineer, and have developed a very practiced approach to diagnostics and a very suspicious non-trusting eye , i have re-downloaded it and others in case of corruptions several times.
your right about being 'thrown to the wolves' with the X3 and not a newbee's ideal starter, but although a 'newbee' in Xbox moding i have been arround electronics and coputers for 25 years, and fairly confident in my ability (actually blind faith and some say obnoxious with it ) so went for this chip based on 'get the best you can at the time' theory for it's adaptability so longer ter playing about interest. it arrived with no guides, not even a reference to the switch bank - team xecuter need to work on presentation a bit more. this site has saved me a lot of time, answered a lot of questions in the excellent manuals/guides section and well worth the VIP fee - best money spent.
still baffled why the cromwell loaded 1st time but none of the others would fire up. i downloaded slayer 2.6 from a site which was a much bigger file so i'll give that one a go from the cd and see if that works better.
i am connecting through a router doing the 'diskles' flash as per this sites manual, not a changeover cable and although it should not make a difference, at 4am this morning after 2 hours troubled sleep i am wondering if perhaps internet 'trafic' or 'colissions' are causing a glitch so i'll go direct and try again - if i can stop my eyes from bleeding
regs
alan
sillygameplayer Xbox-HQ User
Joined: Jan 21, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Essex England
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:47 am Post subject:
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-was it as good for you as it was for me?? and does my ass look big in this Xbox lid?
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary Xbox Version: V1 Modded: X3
Joined: Apr 18, 2004 Posts: 5303 Location: Greensburg PA
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject:
I tried to undo a failed X3 install and here is what I ended up doing.
I put the switch in a 256k bank mode, then booted to the backup rom (Pressing both buttons at the same time)
That will take you to flash bios 3.0.0
Then, I flashed Xecuter2 4983.67 bios to this bank. If you have 1.6, use M8_16 bios.
It flashed perfectly, I can now boot up a hacked bios. I installed Evox and then using FTP I sent over the X3_erase default.xbe to the E drive.
Opened up DVD2Xbox and selected the xbe file and ran xbe. That is supposed to wipe the banks clean.
It did. I then reflashed the 1959 bios to a 1mb bank and it went the whole way through just like it was supposed to and shut down. Joy you think...guess again.. This is an X3 chip...not one that actually wants to do what it's supposed to F*Cking do.
Now, when I boot the machine with that bank I get nothing but a black screen. I have read some topics that if this happens the chip is most likely faulty.
However, the X2 bios is working like a champ so the customer is going to be just as satisfied with that. He was originally going to pay me to put a Xenium Ice in it, so it would be running that bios anyway. This way I saved him 50.00
Hopefully you will get it sorted, but if all else fails, try another bios...screw the 1959 crap. They really need to do something about this chip. Its a joke. Although, most problems that I have seen with people installs are people flashing the wrong sized bios to certain banks.
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sillygameplayer Xbox-HQ User
Joined: Jan 21, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Essex England
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject:
hi themodgod.
i now feel a little better, in a totally imoral way, that you also had problems with flashing 1959 bios on an X3. you mention the recovery by pressing both buttons - that is a new tip on me and have made a note of it.
i don't know why its made so darn difficult to get any info on these chips. lets face it - its outside of any of the legalities of hacked bios's. so why all the secrets?
they would sell more mods if it was clearly documented, along with an error and recovery sheet ie what causes the three attempt resets, blamk screens etc - then more people like you and i would be ready to do more 'mods' for freinds, who do not have the ability to mess with electronics.and solder. selling more chips into the bargain - C'mon Team Evoluton its very basic buisness conmon sense.
still if it was too easy, we would have less need for forums! and i'd have to talk to the wife a lot more, instead of 'writing these buisness letters'
your X3 recovery routine would be good in the newbee manuals section, i'm sure there are others who have flashed both sides of the 1meg bios and are stuffed what to do next.
i seem to have problems with the xbox dvdrive, reads games fine but can't get it to read iso disks, used dvd-rw several makes, even bought a starter cd of ebay and that don't read, so i'm taking the soft route and bought a pre-loaded 160gig hard drive.
regs
alan
custom-xmodz Xbox-HQ Freak
Joined: Aug 28, 2004 Posts: 796 Location: Wales, UK
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:14 am Post subject:
There is an X3 newb guide on www.teamxecuter.com that tells you all about the recovery etc.
The installation diagrams on the site show it too.
DJH
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary Xbox Version: V1 Modded: X3
Joined: Apr 18, 2004 Posts: 5303 Location: Greensburg PA
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:06 am Post subject:
I've noticed thought that teamxecuter doesn't make it easy to find all that stuff though... I even had a hard time finding info and I'm pretty good with the search engine.
I looked at the install diagrams and found nothing on how to use the X3_erase .xbe
I ran across a post is how I figured it all out. Our quick switch reference on this site also shows the different ways to start up the X3 chip. _________________ Good Deals: Death@Hand, funkydopenloven, StaticMind, Slamscaper, PorscheXboxter
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sillygameplayer Xbox-HQ User
Joined: Jan 21, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Essex England
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:02 am Post subject:
hi custom-xmods
thanks for your pick-up and info, noticed your smart add FOR your services in this field. am i just a stupid n00bee who still has to complete the initiation of reading every post on the web? or do you get these problems to with the X3. (go on be honest, you know WANT to be )
i hate to ask for help, i am very stuborn about working through problems myself, you learn more and its interesting. but i am now stumped and have come to a full stop. if you have any clues as to what i am missing or not doing i would and eternally be gratefull be any suggestions - i feel another big sloppy kiss is in the offing - ask thegodmod:lol:
to recap - Xb0x V1 - X3 Chip - networked flashed cromwell bios (only one that will work) can not suss how you then load in dashboard via network - thomson dvrom will not load any iso's or bios but plays games no problem, i know thes are not the best roms.
flashed 1st meg switches on.on.off.off get progress bars then reset - xbox dash works ok on long push, blue screen on short push (no bios i assume) but no error on power lights.
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sillygameplayer Xbox-HQ User
Joined: Jan 21, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Essex England
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:36 pm Post subject:
Hi Rogue,
many thanks for responding, i actually sussed it myself - wrong sized bios bank settings, i was flashing 256k into a 1meg bank = blue screen of death (dough!).
ok stop smirking (stupid n00b lol), i admit i did read in some of the thousands of posts that the bios bank has to be the same size as the flashed bios although that article was not specifically for the X3. a boozed dulled brain and you are told to set the bios bank to 1meg when flashing, both on this sites tutoriol (for diskless FTP flashing), and again on the Pc to Xbox screen is misleading for the unwary n00b, and not yet thinking laturally due to heavy amounts of tunnel vision caused by consentrating at a monitor oh! and booze.
having set the bank switches to boot as told and initially flashed, it's not obvious you move the switches to change bank size (to 256k, 512k, 1m, 2m) while the Xbox is still on, so you flash to 1meg.
in my struggles were not helped by my Thomson drive, it would not read a single disk i produced, 3 different burners, 40 different media tried, even asked others for 'succesful media' - original games no bother, anything else - NADA. beleive me, i'm selling cup coasters and very large shiny ear/nose rings at boot sales as 'bling' items for the next six months to get rid of them lol.
strange thing is, now i have flashed Evox in, the Thomson drive reads every damm disk no matter what media used??? even lids off tin cans. but i've ordered a samsung 'moded' 616T to replace it as games like full spectrum warrior are very jerky, near useless on 'live' with the Thomson.
i'm not out of the woods yet, getting 3 restarts intermittently, when i do get it to load it likes crashing to a grey or blue screen during a qame, i then have to unplug it.
been all over the installation (especially D0) now suspect a small corruption in the bios , not enough to totally stop the Xbox but make it a bit flaky.
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newbee in the s@)t.
) so went for this chip based on 'get the best you can at the time' theory for it's adaptability so longer ter playing about interest. it arrived with no guides, not even a reference to the switch bank - team xecuter need to work on presentation a bit more. this site has saved me a lot of time, answered a lot of questions in the excellent manuals/guides section and well worth the VIP fee - best money spent.
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