Joined: Jun 21, 2004 Posts: 111 Location: San Francisco California
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:24 pm Post subject: Help Me With This Frustrating 1.6 Install PLEASE!!!
OK. Here's the deal. I'm Installing Aladdin's and never had problems with any box I came across............UNTIL the darn 1.6. I rebuilt the bottom of the board, Installed everything required. Pressed power and FRAG!! Neither the original bios nor the chip would boot. So I figured $h*t I must have not made a connection somewhere. With my magic eye I searched the board over and over and lightly tugged all connections to make sure they were on. I then test continuity and found nothing. Then behold after removing the rebuild on the underside I came across the BT wire that was SUPPOSED TO BE connected at R3 G6. Well as much as I hate to admit it it wasn't. I went and connected it to the right side of R3G4.
I know I know...STUPID!!!!! Something that easy was overlooked because of all the fine detailed work that was performed underneath. Well I quickly removed the wire and correctly installed it to the correct point. I then Rebuilt the bottom AGAIN!!!! Then Reassembled the box and attempted to power up the chip. VOILAA!!!!!!!!!!!! It powered up. Great..
Now I Then powered down the box and attempted to power up without the chip...............This Is where my world destructed.. FRAG!!!! I get a red halo flash followed by the standard green halo then after 1 second it powers down. then after 1-2 seconds powers up again with a green halo, then after 1-2 seconds powers down again. Then finally it powers up again with a green solid halo followed by a flashing green halo after 1-2 seconds. All the while I am getting no display to the screen. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! I have 4 1.6's here that need to be done by tomorrow. This one in particular needs to be done by yesterday!!! (LOL) and another one today.
REALMCCOY Ive read your posts where you also were having trouble. I went with your suggestion to place the do on top on the second rebuild. I made sure everything was cleaned off from the removal of the first rebuild and I dont know what else to do. PLEASE HELP ME.. I can post pics if it would make things better.... Thanks for taking the time to read this. PLEASE HELP!!!!!
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 8:05 pm Post subject:
Ahhhh Heres something interesting.... Maybe it might help to determine whats the cause of the frag. When I do power up normally and after all the power off\on bullcrap, then I get a steady green flashing halo and i am able to open the cd tray and hit power and the cd tray doesnt shut before powering down. Something I know isnt supposed to happen. Every time ive shut a xbox down with the tray open it closes the tray before it powers diown. Does anyone know why this one is doing that? thanks again for anyone's help....
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary
Joined: Apr 18, 2004 Posts: 5303 Location: Greensburg PA
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:14 pm Post subject:
Hey bud, it sounds though you went through everything that I myself would look at.
The 1.6 can be a bugger to get going sometimes. I have had 1.6's that light up the first try and were a piece of cake to mod. I have had others that, well, I came real close to breaking in half.
If you have continuity on your LPC rebuild then all must be good there. How did the LFRAME connection look? A few times I had to use the one on the bottom and string the wire up through one of the unused LPC holes to attach to the modchip D0 area. Both top LFRAME holes had so much lacquer on them, and I don't have a fiberglass pen, so I couldn't get a good connection.
My last 1.6 frag just turned out to be soldering issues. After taking the mobo in and out four times I finally got it.
Now, here is the thing you really have to worry about. The more you have to tinker around with this thing, the more likelyhood you are going to pop the standby resistor. If you look to the bottom left of the Xyclops chip on the top side of the mobo you will see a little resistor labeled 2T.
In all of your troubleshooting if you go to power up your machine and it doesn't fire at all..no lights, no anything, then you popped the resistor. You are also better off replacing with a 2A resistor versus the 2T. I pulled one off of a mobo that wasn't in use. They are tiny buggers too!
The aladdin live chip is an enigma to me as I have never even seen one. Sorry I couldn't be of anymore help. Assuming that they are the same install as the Xenium Ice for the 1.6 it sounds like you are looking at the right items..
later man, let me know what you find.
realmccloy
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:16 am Post subject:
OK. Here we go again. I said I would give some time to let this problem sit in the forums and hopefully someone would have an answer. In the mean time i was to try it on another 1.6 this time taking extra extra extra time. So from the time I first posted this thread till now, I have been prepping and trying to do my best work on another 1.6. I even took step by step photos of the process so that I can write a "How-To" But the damn thing is doing the same thing. It boots the chip but not the original bios. Man ive beewn reading forums after forums and its always the other way around. They got the box to boot, but no chip boot. WTH? why me!!!!!! Why ME!!!!!! Has anyone out there have the solution to this frustrating and time consuming issue? Also thanks for the reply realccloy. I know you and 4Ahobby Are some pretty cool kats and I just wanna show my gratitude for all the xbox contributions you two have given. By the way After I figure what the hell is wrong with my installs I'll post up those pics along with a detailed description of what I did. Maybe I can post a few pics here to show what some of it looks like. Oh and by the way, I made all wires as short as possible this time, made sure they had a perfect connection and the DO I used was the top one under U of U7C1
Hope theres someone out there who's had this issue and resolved it. Cause I tell you, to have it happen to me not once but twice is just plain old shitty.LOL Any kind of help Would be super. Well here we go again. This time im on a 1.5 Hahahaha I can get these no problem!!![/img]
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:55 am Post subject:
ok ive read in otehr forums and threads that i need to cut a trace? do i? I hope not. did you have to cut a trace realccloy?
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:05 am Post subject:
No, not at all.
If you aren't getting the chip to fire up...and the xbox is going to the MS dash then most likely it's your LPC rebuild.
If it was your soldering then you would frag.
hope that helps man
realmccloy
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:54 am Post subject:
That;s what is driving me crazy. I got the ability to boot up the chip and run it perfectly. I can even go to msdash from my evox dash and edit my settings. The only thing I am unable to do is cold boot to default dash. I cant power up without the mod enabled. If i do it frags or shall I say doesnt display any video or anything.Flashes on and off twice, and then last it flashes grenn constantly with no display or audio. Man its driving me nuts cause im over here trying all these other suggestions and i really dont want to do anything that i cannot reverse. I never thought it would be this difficult after all that ive had to endure with these darn nods in the past. Well this tops em all. Why would the box let me boot the mod chip when holding the button for 2 seconds. but not the original bios when tappiung power or eject? i know my points are good and my rebuild is good or i wouldnt be able to boot with the modchip. What the Hell is going on here???????
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:11 am Post subject:
OK now i know its not me or my installs that are preventing this from working. Ive done yet another 1.6 using the underside DO and swithced the others to alternate DO's and it still frags when trying to boot up the normal bios. They all allow the modchip to boot with no problems what so ever. I did notice something when I went into the m$dash from evox and checked the date settings. It was set for the year 8907. Does that bring any flags up? does that have to do with my problems? Is anyone out there laughing saying" I remeber when that happened to me, Lets see how long it takes before this guy tosses the board at the wall" If so please help. If theres anything, Anything, Even a suggestion on what it might be or what I might be able to try. That would be great.. Thanks guys
TheModGod Xbox-Hq Legendary
Joined: Apr 18, 2004 Posts: 5303 Location: Greensburg PA
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject:
See, you're throwing me off..
When you say 'normal' bios what bios are you referring to? Retail Kernel?
Let me know if I understand correctly:
you can load evox no issues:
you can load MS Dash with Modchip enabled no issues:
you can't load the normal bios (MS Bios) with modchip disabled (you choose retail kernel at the Xenium OS)
Sorry for the confusion....hopefully I'll have some answers for you when my brain fart clears.
later bud
realmccloy
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:08 pm Post subject:
The box frags when i try and power it up normally without the modchip enabled. When the xbox its powered off and i hit the eject button or tap quicky the power button to power up the xbox without the modchip is when it frags. BUT I can power up the xbox no problems with the modchip enabled. So basically I dont have the On\off feature of the the modchp. either I use the boxwith the modchip or I dont use it at all. So o xboxlive. I really wouldn care but the two of the trhee boxes fragging are not mineto begin with. So yeah thats whats going on.. Thanks for any help.
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:53 am Post subject:
ok. Well Ive come to the final round of the 1.6 battle and by decision took the fight. Ive come to a conclusion that aladdin plus's cannot operate normally as it should on 1.6 boxes. In order to have the on-off function you would need to install a DTDP switch and have the DO and L1 wires running to the switch. BUT the new aladdin doesnt have this issue. So if your gonna mod a 1.6, save the headache and spend a few extra bucks for it. You will be glad you did.oh and as for the TUT. Its in the works. The makers of these chip[s really dont give enough support to help us troubleshoot and issues or have good detasiled instructions on how to install the chips. They should also explain what each connection is needed for and why so that we would understand a little better if by any chance it frags.but thats just my opinion. I know alot would agtree. Well enjoy.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:26 am Post subject:
ok. Well Ive come to the final round of the 1.6 battle and by decision took the fight. Ive come to a conclusion that aladdin plus's cannot operate normally as it should on 1.6 boxes. In order to have the on-off function you would need to install a DTDP switch and have the DO and L1 wires running to the switch. BUT the new aladdin doesnt have this issue. So if your gonna mod a 1.6, save the headache and spend a few extra bucks for it. You will be glad you did.oh and as for the TUT. Its in the works. The makers of these chip[s really dont give enough support to help us troubleshoot and issues or have good detasiled instructions on how to install the chips. They should also explain what each connection is needed for and why so that we would understand a little better if by any chance it frags.but thats just my opinion. I know alot would agtree. Well enjoy.
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Joined: Apr 18, 2004 Posts: 5303 Location: Greensburg PA
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:33 am Post subject:
Man, that sucks...
I'll stick with my Xenium's and SmartXX's.....
I am contemplating the X3 but I haven't gotten any feedback on it yet. It just seems that a lot of people have been having 1.6 issues with the Aladdin's....maybe it's my imagination, or the fact that there is a shit load of those chips out there, but even on the other forums that I frequent I see lots of Aladdin 1.6 posts.
Glad you figured it out, sorry that it wasn't what you wanted to happen.
later man
realmccloy
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