Regeth Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: V1.0 Modded: Smartxx v3
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: The Dual Hard Drive Question....
Ok, I've searched for a answer for this with no luck. I bought a X-box off of e-bay that had a bad DVD drive. I don't want to replace it because I have another perfectly good box that I want to keep if I start with Xbox live. I modded this V1.0 box with a SmartXX v3 chip, and running Evox M8.
What I want to do is have a second hard drive in there so I can have the maximum amount of space for all of my media files and what not. X-DSL can see the drive, and I think I have formatted it but I don't know Linux that good, nor can I read the screen very well. But I know that the BIOS is reporting the second drives model number and such.
How do I give it a drive letter??? It's obviously that I am missing something… Or is this a problem with the BIOS itself? Because with the file explorer in Avalaunch or boXplorer. They still show the “D:” drive letter as a DVD drive.. But there isn’t a DVD drive in the box…
Any thoughts?????
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject:
The xbox can only read off one harddrive at a time. You have to phsically cut the power to one, and power the other. Either by a toggle switch, or changing power molex manually. _________________
Regeth Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: V1.0 Modded: Smartxx v3
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject:
Well, that just sounds odd that linux can see it and write to it.. Sounds more like a issue the OS more than anything else.... I guess I need to research it some more...
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject:
Computer Hardware 101:
A single IDE channel can only detect two devices, a "Master" device and a "Slave" device. _________________ I think I like fixing Boxes more than using them!
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:09 am Post subject:
I think he is saying he wants two harddrives and no dvd drive. Is that correct?
If that is what you are saying, it is possible. I believe you just need a different bios that is capable of not searching for a dvd drive upon bootup. _________________ XBOX- V1.0
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Regeth Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: V1.0 Modded: Smartxx v3
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject:
Trust me I know full well what a IDE channel is and how it works. I’ve been building PC’s for over 15 years.. I am not here to prove how l33t I am..
I posted a question about this issue because my lack of knowledge on the X-Box full capabilities. It has a lot of the same compontes that any other pc has, so I expected that the x-box kernel would know that a hard drive took the place of the DVD drive.. I pointed out that with in linux and any utils that use linux kernels it can see the other hard drive and report the drive information. So this now points me in the thought that the issue is with the current X-box kernel. Seeing how it is the only thing at this point not allowing to anything with it..
Well, here is something I just realized. When I look at the drive letters, like in boXplorer
What I don’t understand right now is, if there isn’t a device connected as a slave on the IDE channel the box wont’ boot.. But yet when I have my 20 gig WD drive connected as a slave, and my 30gig WD drive as master. It loads just fine… I can even access the “D:” drive thru any file management util..
Kdx80boy, if you beleve that’s its all with the BIOS, then which do you suggest.. I have Evox M8. and have a ver 1.0 box.
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject:
a retail box hd only has C D E X Y Z sometimes F ... x y z is only temp folders so u cant do anytin about it....
yes u can put more then 1 hd ... but they cannot be put together to aclumate space nor run at the same time.....
u have to flip a switch or manuel change the cable as 1 of our members mentioned before... HOWEVER u can add a bigger hd....
now what does this have to do with the non workin dvd drive? are you trying to make the xbox read a secondary hd insted of dvd drive? nop not possible....
read on more but im sure the answers are this flat man.. so sorry but no 2 hd s can run at the same time..... _________________ Xbox 360 Premium edition
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kdx80boy Xbox-HQ Elite Member Xbox Version: Xbox V1.0 Modded: Xenium Ice Pinheader
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject:
I wish I could help you more. I looked at doing this a long time ago and can't remember which bios to use. I do remember that there was a special set of bios's to use just for this task though. It's a little hard to find info on this subject as not that many people do it for some reason.
kdx80boy Xbox-HQ Elite Member Xbox Version: Xbox V1.0 Modded: Xenium Ice Pinheader
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:15 am Post subject:
I've been thinking about this for a few minutes, and I think I was wrong. I think I got them confused, there definitely is a bios for no dvd drive, but maybe I just figured since no dvd drive--> that meant 2 harddrives. But I might have been wrong, I don't know.
LEE337 Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: Xbox V1.0 Modded: Xenium Ice Pinheader
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:12 am Post subject:
Regeth wrote:
Trust me I know full well what a IDE channel is and how it works. I’ve been building PC’s for over 15 years.. I am not here to prove how l33t I am..
I posted a question about this issue because my lack of knowledge on the X-Box full capabilities. It has a lot of the same compontes that any other pc has, so I expected that the x-box kernel would know that a hard drive took the place of the DVD drive.. I pointed out that with in linux and any utils that use linux kernels it can see the other hard drive and report the drive information. So this now points me in the thought that the issue is with the current X-box kernel. Seeing how it is the only thing at this point not allowing to anything with it..
Well, here is something I just realized. When I look at the drive letters, like in boXplorer
What I don’t understand right now is, if there isn’t a device connected as a slave on the IDE channel the box wont’ boot.. But yet when I have my 20 gig WD drive connected as a slave, and my 30gig WD drive as master. It loads just fine… I can even access the “D:” drive thru any file management util..
Kdx80boy, if you beleve that’s its all with the BIOS, then which do you suggest.. I have Evox M8. and have a ver 1.0 box.
I'm sorry, I mis-read your 1st post.
The following is speculation:
Your 2nd hdd would need to be formatted in an XBox format, but I think that it will show up as d:\ and you need to have a runnable prog in the root.(XBMC maybe). Then you can browse info with a file manager (current software is not designed to read/write to d.
Just my thoughts. _________________ I think I like fixing Boxes more than using them!
Naaaah!
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Regeth Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: V1.0 Modded: Smartxx v3
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject:
I thank you all for your help on this topic... I'm going to try and see what I can do about this further. But yeah the thompson dvd was doa. Will only say that every disk was dirty. I've tried to clean it, had it open and everything. Still no good. I'm not going to tweak the pots settings..
I would of thought their would be more information about dual hard drives. I find it strange that more people haven't tried it before.. But from what I have seen so far I find the problem lies with Xbox Kernel. So That's the area I am going to explore...
I'll post anything I find..
LEE337 Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: V1.0 Modded: Smartxx v3
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject:
Have you tried to read Audio cd's with it? _________________ I think I like fixing Boxes more than using them!
Naaaah!
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Regeth Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: V1.0 Modded: Smartxx v3
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject:
yes I did.. Same deal...
LEE337 Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: V1.0 Modded: Smartxx v3
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject:
it sounds like you have a dirty or mis-aligned laser. Check for a re-alignment Tutorial. _________________ I think I like fixing Boxes more than using them!
Naaaah!
-Lee
Regeth Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: V1.0 Modded: Smartxx v3
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:25 am Post subject:
Lee,
You posted to someone else about being able to use a USB hard drive to play games and run different apps from.. Are you sure that it can do this?? I thought only the 360 can see USB Hard drives... I'll take a hard look at this....
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