noobsoftmodder Xbox-HQ Member Xbox Version: Xbox V1.3 Modded: SoftMod
Joined: Jun 15, 2005 Posts: 96
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject: Need Urgent help with Surreal 64!!!
Why is it that i can only play some roms on surreal, and others wont load up, and i end up restarting my xbox. I have noticed that the bigger games that are 32mb+ wont run. Do i need to specify some settings in the emulator settings option. Please help, N64 is my fav system. Oh, and one more thing, why cant i transfer some roms over to my xbox via FlashFXP, they sometimes go staight to quarente list and says failed, can someone help.
funkydopeloven Xbox-Hq Genius
Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 1942
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject:
if the file name is to long they won't transfer, surreal has 3 emulators so if it don't play on one, try it with another (i have alot of games taht won't play at all ) never messed around with the settigns much though
noobsoftmodder Xbox-HQ Member Xbox Version: Xbox V1.3 Modded: SoftMod
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:34 pm Post subject:
ok, i fixed the transfer problem, but the games mostly that i like are the 32mb+ games, is there anyway to like put specific settings in the emulator, i dont wanna F* with it, mabe ill mess it up. Some games also run all slow, why is that, and i have diif versions of roms, like ones with a [E] and others with [U]. is there a difference? Some one help me solve thsi problem
funkydopeloven Xbox-Hq Genius
Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 1942
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject:
i have no idea about the setttings, i'm scared to fook it up too but heres what the codes mean on the file names:
quant1c0n wrote:
..................
...............: STANDARD CODES ::...............
: :\
: [a] Alternate [p] Pirate :\
: [b] Bad Dump [t] Trained :\
: [f] Fixed [T] Translation :\
: [h] Hack [x] Bad Checksum :\
: [o] Overdump [!] Verified Good Dump :\
: (M#) Multilanguage (# of Languages) :\
: (###) Checksum (??k) ROM Size :\
: ZZZ_ Unclassified (Unl) Unlicensed :\
: (-) Unknown Year :\
:...............................................:\
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
.................
................: SPECIAL CODES ::...............
: :\
: .-----Gameboy-----. .----Super Nintendo----. :\
: [ [C] Color ] [ (BS) BS ROMs ] :\
: [ [S] Super ] [ (ST) Sufami Turbo ] :\
: [ [BF] Bung Fix ] [ (NP) Nintendo Power ] :\
: `-----------------' `----------------------' :\
: .--------Atari---------. :\
: .-----Genesis-----. [ (PAL) Euro Version ] :\
: [ (1) Japan ] `----------------------' :\
: [ (4) USA ] .-----Thomson MO5------. :\
: [ (5) NTSC Only ] [ (Y) Year unknown ] :\
: [ ( PAL Only ] `----------------------' :\
: [ (B) non USA ] .--------Coleco--------. :\
: [ [c] Checksum ] [ (Adam) ADAM Version ] :\
: `-----------------' `----------------------' :\
: .-------Nintendo-------. :\
: .--NeoGeo Pocket--. [ (PC10) PlayChoice 10 ] :\
: [ [M] Mono Only ] [ (VS) Versus ] :\
: `-----------------' `----------------------' :\
:...............................................:\
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
.................
................: COUNTRY CODES ::...............
: :\
: (1) Japan & Korea (4) USA & BrazilNTSC :\
: (A) Australia (J) Japan :\
: (B) non USA (Genesis) (K) Korea :\
: (C) China (NL) Netherlands :\
: (E) Europe (PD) Public Domain :\
: (F) France (S) Spain :\
: (FC) French Canadian (SW) Sweden :\
: (FN) Finland (U) USA :\
: (G) Germany (UK) England :\
: (GR) Greece (Unk) Unknown Country :\
: (HK) Hong Kong (I) Italy :\
:...............................................:\
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
.......................
.............: STANDARD CODE NOTES ::............
: :\
: [a] This is simply an alternate version of a :\
: ROM. Many games have been re-released to :\
: fix bugs or even to eliminate Game Genie :\
: codes (Yes, Nintendo hates that device). :\
: ------------------- :\
: [b] A bad dump often occurs with an older :\
: game or a faulty dumper (bad connection). :\
: Another common source of [b] ROMs is a :\
: corrupted upload to a release FTP. :\
: ------------------- :\
: [f] A fixed game has been altered in some way :\
: so that it will run better on a copier :\
: or emulator. :\
: ------------------- :\
: [h] Something in this ROM is not quite as it :\
: should be. Often a hacked ROM simply has :\
: a changed header or has been enabled to :\
: run in different regions. Other times it :\
: could be a release group intro, or just :\
: some kind of cheating or funny hack. :\
: ------------------- :\
: [o] An overdumped ROM image has more data :\
: than is actually in the cart. The extra :\
: information means nothing and is removed :\
: from the true image. :\
: ------------------- :\
: [t] A trainer is special code which executes :\
: before the game is begun. It allows you :\
: to access cheats from a menu. :\
: ------------------- :\
: [!] Verified good dump. Thank God for these! :\
:...............................................:\
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
......................
.............: SPECIAL CODE NOTES ::.............
: :\
: **** SNES **** :\
: (BS) These Japanese ROMs were distributed :\
: through a satellite system in Japan :\
: known as the Broadcast Satellaview. :\
: They were transmitted along with a TV :\
: show which was connected to the game in :\
: some way. These games were only playable :\
: during the show, and thus stop after an :\
: hour, and many were timed so that only :\
: certain time periods were playable. :\
: ------------------- :\
: (ST) The Sufami Turbo device allowed two :\
: GameBoy sized carts to be plugged into :\
: the SNES. Certain carts combined into :\
: new games much like the Sonic & Knuckles :\
: lock-on technology by Sega. :\
: ------------------- :\
: (NP) Nintendo Power has been known to release :\
: games only available to its subscribers. :\
: Most of these ROMs are Japanese, as this :\
: practice occured mainly in Japan. :\
: ------------------- :\
: :\
: **** Genesis **** :\
: (1) Carts with this code will run on both :\
: Japanese and Korean machines. :\
: ------------------- :\
: (4) While this code is technically the same :\
: as a (U) code, it is a newer header :\
: format and represents that the cart will :\
: run on USA and Brazil NTSC machines. :\
: ------------------- :\
: (B) This country code indicates that the :\
: cart will run on any non US machine. :\
: ------------------- :\
: [c] This code represents a cart with known :\
: faulty checksum routines. :\
: ------------------- :\
: :\
: **** GameBoy **** :\
: [BF] Bung released a programmable cartridge :\
: compatable with the GameBoy which could :\
: hold any data you wished to play. :\
: However, many games do not function on :\
: Bung v1.0 carts and have to be 'fixed.' :\
: ------------------- :\
: :\
: **** Nintendo **** :\
: PC10 The PlayChoice 10 was an arcade unit :\
: which played exact copies of NES games :\
: in an arcade cabinet. The machines had a :\
: choice of 10 games to choose from and :\
: ran for about 3 minutes on 25 cents. :\
: ------------------- :\
: :\
: VS The Versus system ran on similar hard- :\
: ware to the PC10 machines, but simply :\
: allowed you to play against each other. :\
:...............................................:\
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
this helped me alot!................peace
BarakaZERO Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: Xbox V1.3 Modded: SoftMod
Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 2
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:10 am Post subject:
Hello ,
I am a new user and I have a question about N64 emulators . I know where to get them but my friend told me not to get one because it could mess up your eeprom . Is there a N64 emu that won't do that and works with a decent amount of n64 roms ?
Thank you ,
Mike .
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:37 am Post subject:
Quote:
my friend told me not to get one because it could mess up your eeprom . Is there a N64 emu that won't do that and works with a decent amount of n64 roms ?
Hi.
I think your friend has rocks in there head.. You only need a modded xbox to play emulators like the PS1 Emulators, N64, SNES etc etc. The emulators dont hurt your eeprom at all..
Look into the Auto INstaller Deluxe v2.11 Final.. It has 60+ Dashboards, Emulators and other xbox apps all on the one dvd-r.. You can download too. Find mor einfo here:
http://www.aid.xbox-hq.com or http://www.aideluxe.com
You can also download the AID from our VIP SERVERS too.
BarakaZERO Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: Xbox V1.3 Modded: SoftMod
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject:
Yep thats all the info I needed . Thank you very much .
T-Rizzle Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: Xbox V1.3 Modded: SoftMod
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:58 am Post subject:
I have been messing around with Surreal64 and to be honest, I love it. I love being able to play MarioKart64 again! Absolutly love that game. But the one thing I'm having problems with is trying to find my UTMOST FAVORITE GAME from the 64 series......GOLDENEYE! I've looked and looked and looked. Just wondering if anyone has it and would be willing to send it my way. Also, if you do have it, does it actually run good? Cause MarioKart runs awesome, just hoping GoldenEye does the same. Thanks! _________________ XBOX v1.6c
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noobsoftmodder Xbox-HQ Member Xbox Version: Xbox V1.3 Modded: SoftMod
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject:
i have goldeneye, and cant get it to run smoothly, it lagss a lot. Anyone know what causes this problem.
jhondra V.I.P. Member Xbox Version: Xbox V1.0 Modded: Xecuter3 CE
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject:
Folks,
Emulation is inherantly MUCH less optimized than playing the original game on the customized hardware. It is very hard to make an emulated ROM play on non-native hardware correctly, let alone fast. Right now, the "1964" emulator seems the best, followed by the "PJ64", in terms of most ROMs that it will work with without locking up or having artifacts.
I know I saw a current list of ROMs and which emulator works and which locks up for Surreal 64 somewhere (put it this way NONE of them currently runs more than about half the N64 ROMs out there). So, you'll have to pick and choose and just try it. The more memory the cartridge is, the slower the emulation is, typically. The XBox only has 64MB of memory, and some is shadowed to HDD.
Regards,
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AngelosDracul V.I.P. Lifetime Xbox Version: Xbox V1.0 Modded: Xecuter3 CE
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:36 am Post subject:
Emulation is a tricky buisiness. In order to properly emulate, you need at the very least 3 times the hardware power of the original system. So, if you have the good ol' N64 (which is a 64 bit system ((theoretically))) then the xbox will only be able to play certain Roms. A majority of your N64 games rarely use the full 64 (or the expanded 128 provided by the expansion pack) bits that the system provides.
So, you have a 128 (or was it 256) bit system (the xbox) trying to emulate at the min, 32 bit (Mario64, MarioKart, etc...). No problem. But when you get into higher games like GOldenEye, the GPU gets crushed trying to emulate the hardware of the 64bit system. Because it needs at the very least 192bits. Now, if you try to run PerfectDark (Which in my opinion crushes GoldenEye, but would be nothing without it) you're better off modding a controller port of an xbox into your PC and playing it on a high-end custom built PC.
Hopefully, that will explain a little bit about emulation, and why most games won't work. _________________ "That which does not kill you, only makes you stronger."
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